Middle Classlessness
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I realize that this is such a bad sociological or anthropological interpretation of class structure that it muddles every aspect of respectable research.
Class Act: 1960s
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Is the US a classless society?
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If not, which of the following are you?
See results without votingDo you think class [still] matters?
Social stratafication is a useful way to categorize people if you need to study trends in available social services, or linguistic patterns, or the correlation between income, say, and education. Throw in ethnicity, or lineage, or whatever you would like to call it, add accent if you are talking about England (where "received pronunciation" is considered a vital component of the upper class)--and you have a strange brew, indeed.
The US maintains that it is a classless society, and the UK has historically agreed with this assessment of their American cousins (usually equating "classless" with "tasteless"), considering the States to be composed of "Yankee cowboy rednecks," as my father once described the neo-natives of this great land. Having lived here since 1984, I've figured out just how funny that definition is, and wonder whether the labels equate to different social strata in any meaningful way.
For example, are rednecks an equivalent to the working class in Britain? Are New Englanders upper middle class? How do we describe Californians? What about the silent (because voiceless) hispanic underclass?
The UK has always been so class-conscious, in fact, that it overflowed into other areas of life: letters used to be subject to stratification, with 1st, 2nd, and 3rd class postage providing different speeds of delivery. I remember a sign over a shop (either in Belfast or Glasgow, I don't recall) reading "First Class Family Butchers," and you can probably see why that one stuck in my mind. Trains used to have 1st class carriages, which no one else could afford. Now, though, this kind of elitist categorization is only really found on cruise ships or--where it hurts the most--on airplanes, where there is one class for human beings (1st) and hell for everyone else.
I haven't thought about class for many years. In one sense, the US is the great equalizer, although that may not be altogether a good thing, since it appears to depend on the education system being so bad that high school classes are repeated in college (they just call them freshman year). It was long held (in the State Senate) that kids in South Carolina, for example, didn't need an education anyway, as they were required to work in agriculture and unskilled labor. Ouch.
But I was reminded of societal class systems the other day, when someone called me a "middle class twit." Now, the twit bit I have no problem with ("twit" in the sense of "eejit," at any rate; the implication in the UK, though, is a little more derogatory, as it carries with it the idea that the twit in question has more money than sense [and I have neither] and a hoity toity accent. In this particular instance, yoga also apparently has something to do with it, although I couldn't figure that bit out).
But the "middle class" epithet made me wonder if anyone still thought of him/herself in terms of class. Do you?
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Does class really matter any more?
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and if so, which class do you belong to?
See results without votingSocial Stratafication in the north of Ireland
It might seem a little strange to begin an examination of the class system in the north of Ireland by talking about what happened a few hundred years ago in France, but just bear with me a little.
It isn't.
So, then: France. With the beginning of the Holy Wars in 1562, religion became a bit of a touchy subject. In 1572 , in a span of several weeks in Paris and elsewhere, an estimated 70,000 French Protestant "Huguenots" were massacred. The persecution of the Huguenots (the term was originally insulting, possibly derived from the name Hugues--a Protestant who was from Geneva, Switzerland--and a corruption of the Frankish word for a conspirator or confederate) was very bloody indeed. The Protestants dispersed from their home land, mostly ending up in the Netherlands, in tens of thousands of panicked families clutching their children before they were torn from their arms and gutted on a pike. [Now, don't be jumping to any conclusions, or you'll miss the real reason I'm mentioning the French.]
One of the seemingly enduring facts of life in the northern Irish counties comprising the province of Ulster is that ethnicity generally, rather than a particular lineage or income bracket, is viewed by many to be a basis for interpreting social stratification. In this definition, therefore, class depends on where your ancestors came from , not where they shopped .
So, anyone with native Irish ancestors, therefore, going all the way back to the days when the Celts came from the continent of Europe and moved in on the Picts, say, belongs to one "group/ division/ ethnic entity" of society, while those whose ancestors later came from Scotland, England (or France!), belong to another. Most of the settlers who later came to the North came from Scotland, a country that has long maintained its need for a national government separate and distinct from its southern neighbors; and that is of some significance, I believe, if not downright irony, in a small province where a majority of the population (if we could ever stand to listen to a certain Ian Paisley) allegedly claim some sort of loyalty* to the Crown. Of England.
Plantations in Ireland
Except for the fact that it isn't really that simple; some parts of the island were planted mostly by the Scots, less by the English, and there were only about ten thousand French refugees (but I couldn't leave them out; especially after they had come all that way). The English Protestants were planted mostly in the South of Ireland, the Scots in the North, and since the Scots already had quite a history of settling in Antrim and Down--going back centuries, the British crown did not plant either of those counties.
Plantation is not colonization is not geopolitical boundary is not social stratification
If we are to believe the history books (no, I don't mean that I'm some sort of conspiracy theorist who thinks we are all being lied to, I'm just saying that during the course of the research I did for this piece I read some radically different interpretations of Irish history, and of the British involvement in that history), if we are to believe that events as they occurred happened for the reasons made apparent in the history books, the six counties in the North (FAT LAD, or FAT DAD: Fermanagh, Armagh, Tyrone, (London)Derry, Antrim, Down) voted themselves out of the Irish Free State and back into the United Kingdom for the simple reason that they were all such loyal Unionists they couldn't imagine a day without the Union Jack flying over their heads.
The northern counties were the seat of the O'Neill, the earls' rebellion, and mostly planted by the Scots, anyway (and the French!). How did they build such a strong loyalty to the Crown? Could it have had anything to do with their rich industrial concerns and commercial potential? The many foreign enterprises that had enjoyed success? (French linen, in particular, is now known as Irish linen, and was developed as an industry by the very Huguenots who had fled the massacres in France.) Britain had many investments in the North, from livestock to rope; what would an Irish Free State encompassing all of the island have meant for those investors?
In the 1910s and '20s, the shipyards in Belfast were the largest in the world. The importance of that fact to the British owners in particular (Harland was from Yorkshire, Wolff was born in Hamburg and lived in Liverpool), and British industry in general, can hardly be ignored; and yet--in negotiations for Irish independence (after the war of 1919-1921) that led to the creation of the Irish Free State--the plan proposed (1919) by David Lloyd George, the prime minister of England, and brought into being in 1920 as the Government of Ireland Act--had originally been to partition Ireland into two entities that would initially both be governed by Home Rule.
Initially. They would share the Council of Ireland, and that, Lloyd George believed, would lead to the reunification of the island under one parliament. Or so he said.
A class of their own
All of which brings me back to the topic of class. In the twentieth century, in the north of Ireland at any rate, the lower classes were often Catholics locked out of an insular enclave of Protestant-owned industry and the Protestant workers in many of those industries themselves. The middle classes tended to lean towards a more Protestant orientation, and the upper classes--lived in England.
That's a gross oversimplification and misstatement of a more complex situation, but it pretty much represents how the northern Irish saw themselves, bound as they all were by the "cordon sanitaire" of their accent, and their international status as Great Britain's red-headed stepchild.
I will be very interested to see how many of you consider class to be an integral part of your identity--like nationality or gender--and how many of you haven't thought about it for decades. And am I a middle-class twit, or not? I have no idea. I was pleased, I must admit, to discover that our family name (not McGurk) came from (you guessed it!) the French Huguenots who settled in the north. That technically removes me from the class distinctions described above. . . .
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Very interesting presentation, that surely causes one to think. Personally, I feel the class situation does still exist in the U.S., if based on income, assets, and even gender and race, at times. That is just one opinion though. I did enjoy reading this and voted it up. Thanks for sharing.
"rich enough not to pay tax"
LOL! Very interesting and funny hub.
I think class will always be significant in any community.
Nowadays, many consider being middle-class as a badge of honor. Politicians always shout the loudest that they are middle class. Being middle class means you belong with everyone else. But that in itself is class significant.
It is strange though, the terms that people use for name calling. I was called a hippie a few times which always made me go huh?! We should create a guide to name calling - "Name Calling for Dummies" ;-)
You always make my brain hurt.
I was not surprised to see that the initial voting in your poll for Americans shows that readers of this Hub believe the US is not a classless society. I agree, and voted accordingly.
This understanding of class in America cuts to the quick of economics. Recent studies affirm that there are three classes in this country, the haves, the have nots, and the rapidly shrinking middle class between them. In other words, the rich are getting richer, the poor remain, and those in the middle are getting poorer.
Perhaps in melodramatic fasion, I can see clearly the coming of the domination of the trodders and the trodden upon, with little to nothing in the middle.
America has little left of "hoity toity" to define its upper class, in terms of cultural lineage and privilege; what it has is a class of money, and money is the only ticket you need to privilege.
Guess I sounded off here!
About this Hub, thank you so much for putting together such richness of history, music, and thought.
Up and useful (we isolationist Yankees think we know everything when we don't...maybe your words will be eye-openers for some).
Hi, me again. I just wanted to say that I totally agree with Sally's comment. I just couldn't articulate it as well as she did.
Thank you for such a fascinateing hub. I was clued to the screen reading yaur hub.
It WAS a good read. Me, personally--I think I'm still striving to MAKE the middle class. I was born below that somewhere.
I actually read this several days ago, but the question still gives me kind of a headache. I came to Boston with $400 dollars in my boot to play jazz. I got a day job, met someone, got married, had kids, bought property, and now I guess I'm middle class. Does it matter to me? No, I can't say it does.
I think income is good to have. Money is fun to have and can be difficult to do without. But to worry about not having it can make you a slave. I don't want to be a slave.
I like to think that if things change, I will adapt. I have always been able to adapt before.
Teresa, I think that class is very important in the US - it matters when you look for a job, depending on the type of job you are looking for and it matters how people look at you in many aspects of life. Using poor English, tossing too many expletives in your speech all contribute to make a person sound 'lower class.'
I love the polls.
Hello Teresa. This was a very good and informative article. I first learned of the northern Irish class structure when I read "Trinity" by Leon Uris. The Good Friday Accord has started to break down religious barriers through an integrated law enforcement service.
Global economic systems keep the mice struggling and fighting for the crumbs while one percent eat cake. I enjoyed the article and videos. Cheers.
Fascinating - have bookmarked for closer review. Demographics and "class" I find interesting - and I think it is helpful for marketing too - a useful tool.
Thank you!
Interesting article.
I'm never sure which class I belong to. I have a father who's family weren't quite working class in London, who's father is Irish and mother who's family are upper middle class, uni-educated. With a Canadian/American husband and sharing citizenship between England/Canada and living in both countries, I'm not sure I can claim a class. I bounced between 5 countries growing up. I'm too everything to be anything. My mixed up mannerisms, references and accent leave people confused. Some of my grandfather's comments about my mother's family leave me wondering if he in fact hates his grandchildren.
As more and more of us pick up international flavours, I hope class and heritage will be a source of celebration and not division.
Too often, lower classes in North America are dismissed just as quickly as they are in the British Isles. Having the wrong accent shouldn't bar a person from a job and having the right accent shouldn't give preferential treatment.
Wonderful.so much there.
Great hub.
Hi Teresa - that was a fascinating ramble through history, geography, sociology, &c. Anyone who thinks there's no such thing as a class structure should try a year or two in Qatar!
Well, Teresa, first off, I don't think you could be considered a twit in any fashion using U.S. definitions. Not even remotely. As for our society being classless, hah, not hardly. As your tour through the last few centuries proves, class happens. It's always an economic/resources thing, and any society who thinks it is classless is just narrowing down the definition of the word until they can make the claim. Which is fine, but a dude with nothing to eat by any other name is still hungry, and a dude with a personal gaurd and global access by any other name is still royalty.
Hi Teresa, what a great read! Funny and sad at the same time. The class structure is real and unreal too! It's reality tends to cause pain and anger and it's unreality disbelieving laughter. I tend to use the latter against those who think themselves of the upper classes and empathy for the rest of us!
Thanks for wonderful tour of history and sociology (and a few other things besides!).
Love and peace
Tony
Hi Teresa, I spent the first twenty-five years of my life living in England and the rest in Australia. I was brought up in a council house in a working class environment, although my father was the manager of a coach firm, with a middle class income. In England the class system is very pronounced, or it was when i left in 1977. There were people who considered themselves lower-middle-class, by dressing a little better, or driving a better/newer car. I noticed this when i got my first car at twenty three. People would often ask me what kind of car i had, followed by what year. After a while i realised it was purely so that they could ascertain whether they were above or below me in the pecking order. It didn't matter whether you owned the car, or if you had borrowed it from a friend. You were judged at that point.
There is very little class distinction in Australia. It is refreshing to be invited to a BBQ where the host is wearing an apron cooking the food even with a top of the range car in the garage. I am a self employed Bricklayer and in Australia tradesmen are respected and well paid. I don't look very successful, but I lead a very comfortable life. When my youngest daughter was asked to provide some photos of her home the teacher was surprised by the outcome. (Really) My wife had to verify them. We don't live in a mansion bye the way, just a nice house. I remember that skit from the Frost report involving the two Ronnies and John Cleese. A brilliant example of the pomposity of the class system.
Your hub was very interesting to read. The historical and political ties concerning Britain and Ireland are so intertwined that only a lengthy research project would shed a clearer light on the subject. You have done that to a degree, but would need to write a book to really cover the topic. A wonderful hub non the less. Cheers from a relatively class free Australia.
Teresa :0)
Well I think Gadaffi, Mobarrak and all the rest of the middle east that think they are above will soon be trampled by the people into the reality that all men are equal...
I have never believed in the class system, therefore I do not belong..I`m me and me alone...
The cool thing about the long long line into heaven is that those who adhere to the class system will be last in the line on their way screaming to hell on the "swift kick in the ass" system
Great read!!
Mike :0)
Very interesting hub! Here in Australia, they base class on money and education level. I feel that classing people at all is wrong and just plain sad.
I feel very sorry for the upper class, never to know true happiness. So focused on being high and mighty, they do not stop to look at the ground they walk upon. defining classes on aeroplanes and passenger trains etc, should be banned. We can not afford that sort of ignorance in our society, anymore. That way of thinking breeds contempt and creates havoc.
Keep up the good work :)
Hey Ms. McGurk!
I would say [it] shouldn't matter, but in reality does to a vast amount of people.
It would seem to me (me being the key word since I have no really qualifications on commenting on a complicated subject - because I'm considered a 'ditz').. would say that America has turned into 2 classes (largely due to the current economic crisis).. 1 being the 'Haves' and 2 being the 'Have nots'. Now there is a middle 'Have and want more of same so as to appear to really Have, tho it's a sham'. I'm currently in the 'Have not' status - according to census details, but def in the 'Have' if you count amazing friends, family and a brain to be a 'ditz' with! Hugs my friend!
PS.. sorry for the tardiness of the commenting - I just found this hub - largely due to 'Having' too much to wade thru to find the really good stuff!
When white bread was considered a status symbol,what does that say for class consciousnesses??????????




















Jeff Berndt Level 4 Commenter 21 months ago
Right, so, at first I thought this was going to be a political commentary. Then I thought, hey, maybe it's a comic piece. Then it got all historical. I have no idea what the purpose of this article is, but it was a good read for all that. I enjoyed it very much, and now I have a lot to think about, which is always a good thing. Voted up.